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to beat president obama. a look at the war in afghanistan. now the longest war. how do we get out? does obama's policy differ from president bush's and what is the effect for generations to come? joe and mika and willie join in the conversation later this hour. we begin with the debt crisis. they are trying to make a deal on the deficit. houses of congress are rolling out separate compromises to safe off a default. harry reid is meeting with mitch mcconnell to craft a solution to appeal to both parties. according to reports, this would do the following. it would allow the debt ceiling to be raised three times for a total of $2.5 trillion. in exchange, some $1.5 trillion in spending cuts would be enacted. the plan would be established to identify new deficit cuts. proposal, already, getting a lukewarm response from the fellow republicans. among them, the freshman snar mark arubio and tom coburn. take a listen. >> it gives the president the ability to raise the debt limit. the debt limit isn't the problem. the problem is the debt. the plan, as outlined to me isn't a credible solution. >>
who knows how to get us out of afghanistan and iraq. >> the republicans we have on the show say they are open to the loophole cuts. are they? >> tom coburn is. he provides a lot of cover. >> i was wondering what mike was quoting. how many pages can you get read in the seventh inning stretch? >> it's in between innings. it's the entire game. >> the tough thing for president obama, he's going to say he will extend the deadline, if it looks like a deal is coming together. this, to me, is the difficult part. if all he had to deal with was the senate, i have no doubt in the next week you would have a deal that would work. the house is difficult. he's going to need to know from nancy pelosi and john boehner the votes are in place. today, not even close to that. >> you will lose 100, maybe 120 republicans right out. if you get most of the democratic caucus and boehner pulls in 100 republicans, it gets done. it's up to the democrats. i think boehner can get 100 republicans. can pelosi get 120 democrats? >> right. okay. we are going to get to bill karins on the heat in a minute. before w
on the heels of the most absurd unfunded wars in iraq and afghanistan and unfunded trillion dollar medicare and bills and tax cuts for the wealt wealthy. i, myself, voted for all of this. back to my original point. >> welcome back to "morning joe". the medicare plan was a $7 trillion plan. most republicans have been watching. let's take a look now at the morning papers. the san francisco chronicle and a virtual fallout if congress fails to raise the contract. they took out $5.4 billion in loans, covering the bills in case money stops flowing in from washington. new york times under pressure from democratic colleagues, seven term representative, david wu said he would resign from congress following accusations of inappropriate sexual encounters last year. she was much, much younger. before the allegations, he was politically vulnerable. two others were going to challenge him. they have been talking about this going back to college, possible rape charges from his time in stanford. drivers in l.a. may regret paying ticket violations from traffic cameras. they admitted paying the fines is volun
soldiers fighting in afghanistan, a war, and people don't seem to forget that. so, i would not say that any prime minister would not think that the "sun" is fighting for the right people and in fact, the "sun" continues to fight for the right people. >> and when would one of those prime mensters ask you as either editor or chief editor at the time ask you to not publish a story or would they sort of go over the news and ask you to spike a story? would that happen? >> no. i can't remember an occasion when the prime ministers asked us to not run a story. >> that is not a politicians generally something that would happen? >> no. i mean, i would say that i can remember many occasions when cabinet minister or a politician or prime minister was very unhappy that the stories that we were running. but not that they'd ever pleaded directly for it not to run. >> and if they had, you would not have been interested anyway? >> well, as long as the story was true and accurate and part of the campaign, then, no, there is is no reason for a prime minister, and that is exactly why we have a free press. >> d
and afghanistan, is inconsistent with his muslim beliefs. at first the military wasn't buying the argument, but ultimately the pentagon said he's right, he should be discharged from the military and he was just about to leave when authorities say they found several items of child pornography on his computer. so that stopped his discharge. he was almost out of the army, but when they found evidence of a crime, they kept him in the military so that they can prosecute him in the military justice system, and that's what put a hold on his discharge. he'd had a hearing. he went awol, wound up in texas. went to the gun store where he bought smokeless powder which is gunpowder basically, a component in bombs, and authorities say when they went to his motel room in ft. hood, texas, they found the makings of basically two time bombs, smokeless powder. they say he was in the process of taking shotgun shells apart to get the shot out. the little metal pellets, which apparently he was going to use as shrapnel in the two bombs that he would have built in pressure cookers. so, instead of being pipe bombs
them in his kingdom. this is a war of religion in the country and not different from afghanistan, and a few less people are getting shot. but you know, we have talked on the last show about this book of mine "sex, god and mom," and people who read that book understand that religion impacts politics and you brought up michele bachmann and i read today where she was saying that she got into politics by reading my late father francisç shea's books on calling for the people to overthrow the government and unless it sent roe v. wade back to the courts for decision to take choice away from women. this element is prevalent in the united states right now, and we can't kid ourselves, because it is extremism under the form of christianity. >> thank you, frank. >>> and now, like the fall of communism, some are beginning to suggest that multiculturalism has had the day. in the last few months a number of world leaders from prime minister david cameron in the uk to chancellor angel la ameria mm germany have spoken of the fall of this. and just as europe have developed a single currency and
, but they have their own leadership structures in each country. even if we get rid of al qaeda in afghanistan or pakistan, we won't simply wipe it out in every country this is an organization that will be with us for decades, one way or another. what we have to do is try to minimize the threat as much as possible and there are positive signs that we're moving in that direction. >> okay. evan kohlman, always sobering, thank you for bring to us. >>> and lawmakers very close to an agreement. but a white house senior adviser says no deal yet. more twists in the road ahead, and we'll tell you why. overhe south pific in 1943 vietnam, 1967. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. u.s.a.a. we know what it means to serve. dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center recommends the custom-fit orthotic that's best for your tired feet. foot-care scien
of the wars in afghanistan and pakistan. >> still not getting serious. >> i went away from fuzzy. >> is that like jerry at trick math? >> yes. >> are you surprised they don't have a deal today? i actually really -- i mean, i really thought -- >> i would be shocked if they don't have a deal in the next two or three days. again, republican freshmen may have a big ideology difference with barack obama and his world view, and the divide is no greater than ronald reagan's was with tip o'neal in 1983 when they sat down, and they did a kneel. yes, you differ with barack obama and the democrats, but -- >> usually you are good at seeing somebody's angle. like you know what their angle was. what is the angle here? i don't get it. >> these republicans believe this is their only opportunity -- >> are they so stuck to the contract with the tea party they cannot think outside the box for the good of the country? seriously? >> can i finish? you asked a question and i need to finish. they understand one thing. >> what do they understand? >> they are dead right about this. this is their best chan
ten years and the expected savings from the drawdown from the wars in iraq and afghanistan is how they are calculating what they can save and the republicans are not happy about that and that is where the divide is. the real fight right now is trying to see where the winds are blowing with what is called the boehner plan. we don't know exactly when that vote will be taken, because there is a lot of head counting going on and maybe some arm twisting, too, to figure out if they can get it through. should it not pass, we are into another whole scenario of what to do next. >> kelly o'donnell on capitol hill. thanks. we want to bring in kristen welker at the white house. kristen, jay carney, the white house press secretary says that he does not believe that the default will happen. as we hear from the two sides both agreeing that the debt limit needs to be raised, it is inevitab inevitable. >> it is the one thing that all sides can agree on here, and you are right, the press secretary jay carney says he has complete faith that the debt ceiling will be raised by next week, but the big q
to take the trillion dollars save from the drawdowns of wars in iraq and afghanistan, apply that ta the biden framework. i talked to harry reid's office today. couldn't get a yes or no answer on that. i did get out of leadership aides they're not going to impb kblud the entitlement reforms that president obama had offered. there's no raising of the medicare eligibility age. there's no means testing. you're looking at steep domestic discretionary cuts.ç >> sounds as though what harry reid is you can tag about doing is taking the most volatile issues off the table for now. but is he putting up enough that's actually hard wired because if you talk about notional savings from wars that haven't been drawn down yet, a lot of things can happen between now and then. >> that savings started showing up when president obama presented his first budget it's always been seen as a little gimmicky. the house guys have been very reluctant to count it. it's not money that we're planning to spend. after their guys felt like they were sort of misled during the cr fight about how much was being saved,
more years in iraq and afghanistan, and after you factor all that out, let's see what the plan is, but we don't have a lot of time to look at this plan, and i'm of the view at some point, if you're getting 85% of what you want, and i hope my side can do that, that's not a defeat. that's a victory, and the next day you start working on the last 15% on whatever is the next thing that the congress is going to do. we have to understand that nobody is going to get everything they want here, but we're not talking about new revenues right now. everybody is apparently talking about decreasing spending, and let's see where we can get now and where we can get a couple of months from now with a select committee that has to report back even more ways to cut spending. >> senator roy blunt, nice to have you on with us today. we appreciate your time. >> you bet. >> want to remind everybody we are watching what's taking place there now. full screen on your monitor, waiting for jay carney, white house press secretary, to come out and address reporters. we'll be back with much more right after this
. we're told that by military officials that he'd never been deployed to either iraq or afghanistan, and, in fact, had applied for conscience shs objective status, saying he was a muslim. >> thank you very much, pete williams, i know you'll keep us updated. >>> a lot going on in washington, d.c., clearly, including the ongoing news conference with the gop freshmen. we have the senators also taking to the floor, and there you have the chamber, where we are going to be seeing a vote a little later on today, and we're going to be hearing from john boehner early in the afternoon, so this could be an extremely consequential day in this debt fight in washington. keep it here on msnbc. i love that my daughter's part fish. but when she got asthma, all i could do was worry ! specialists, lots of doctors, lots of advice... and my hands were full. i couldn't sort through it all. with unitedhealthcare, it's different. we have access to great specialists, and our pediatrician gets all the information. everyone works as a team. and i only need to talk to one person about her care. we're more than
kathy was terminated. if you follow the news right now, we have 5-year-old boys in afghanistan. this is, i think that particular chapter of life. it's still continuing to this day. it's why we screened the movie for the u.n. the u.n. correspond ens. we got a leaked memo that the secretary general is concerned about the film. they will not -- they are trying to do a damage control thing. >> no commenting, no condemnation? >> no. we have internal memos saying it happened, but let's not make it public. we are trying to comment on this issue, not -- or the state department or whoever. this isn't something that happened way back when. it still continues and we can look at the laws of international immunity and this can be -- >> right. >> there's -- there are gray areas to things, but in my opinion i think you agree it's black and white, peacekeepers should not be buying and selling girls. >> we can all agree on that. >> you know. >> i'm trying to figure out what the bush state department incentive would be for covering it up? >> really? >> why? >> to be honest -- >> united nations. >> this h
afghanistan, pakistan. you're reading a couple pieces in the "new york times." now it's spreading to all of these different countries and one that really jumped off the page for me, drone attacks in somalia. >> joining us, jeremy scahill, on the cia secret sites in somalia, jeremy, the secret training programs and secret prisons out of somalia is part of your reporting there. how big a threat are these terrorist group there's? >> we should say first of all president obama campaigned on a promise to go up against these bush era policies declaring war on the world, running secret sites, torturing prisoners. deeply involved in an underground dungeon officially run by the somali national security agency, but their salaries are paid by the cia directly. in fact, one somali agent described thousand hairli ed ho and paid by u.s. agents and the u.s. is interrogating prisoners, including those rendered by the kenyan government, snatched off the streets in nairobi based on u.s. intelligence and taken to this secret prison and interrogated. it goes against the president's ordered he signed in janua
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